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HP Latex Giclées?

on: May 14, 2024 at 1:56 pm

Woah ok I guess you are saying the data doesnt exist!

 

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Re: HP Latex Giclées?

Reply #1 on: May 14, 2024 at 12:27 pm

I get that. But what the vast majority of my customers THINK it means, is the archival testing methods used that vendors apply to their media says it will last 100 years. When I tell a customer something is archival it’s because Canon and Breathing Color both say it will last 100 years between the inks and the media. Thats enough for me. I don’t make the ink or the canvas, I am relying on them to back that.

All I am asking is if there is anything that says latex inks meet these standards. Breathing Color now has a canvas they say meet these standards, for latex, uv, and eco solvent inks. But I cannot find anything in reference to 100+ year latex inks.

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Re: HP Latex Giclées?

Reply #2 on: May 14, 2024 at 12:09 pm

My point is I cant tell a customer that. They would likely think I was out of my mind, or likely dont give a crap. I want to be able to tell people it is rated at 100 years because thats what people tell them archival means and thats what they expect. Im not interested in educating them to the full extent of what archival or giclee means, I would just get a blank stare (I assume). They want to know their print will last a their lifetime. According to the testing done to create the standard.

From what I had heard and little info I found online, latex inks are knows to degrade very quickly. But the research I have found is a few years old, so I was curious if technology had improved where suddenly HP is claiming these inks will meet those 100 year test standards.

I appreciate the link and will dig into that site later, maybe I will find something in reference to latex. The articles do appear to be pretty old though.

I have been searching and havent been able to find one ICC profile for latex print canvas, but will keep looking.

 

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Re: HP Latex Giclées?

Reply #3 on: May 13, 2024 at 11:33 pm

I think it’s more about telling my customers. Most of my customers are artists and they use the word constantly. Regardless of the actual definition, im not comfortable telling them it’s hogwash. I guess what I would rather tell them is something to the affect of archival quality of latex inks. We can leave the work giclee out of it. But for my customers it simply means archival media and archival inks printed at a high resolution. If they come to me and speak of a competitor that is using latex inks I want to know what I should tell them! Ive had a lot of trouble finding info online about the archival quality, though HP of course claims their machines are fantastic for fine art reproduction. In my years, Ive never actually met someone in the field who uses an HP Latex printer for fine art. I figured there was a reason for that!

Good call with the 3d mapping of the profiles, I’ll have to search for some.

Thanks

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Re: Converting images to a media profile

Reply #4 on: February 27, 2024 at 5:56 pm

Thanks for the responses. I would never set the profile to sRGB but currently use Adobe RGB as thats what Canon recommends. My skepticism with Pro Photo RGB is it would be working in a color space where I cant see the full profile on my screen.

I’ll check the video links out, thank you.

 

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Re: Epson SC-P900 colors inaccurate

Reply #5 on: January 13, 2024 at 8:48 pm

Jesus that would make my life so much easier. If the red would work for me it’s a possibility.

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Re: Epson SC-P900 colors inaccurate

Reply #6 on: January 13, 2024 at 8:27 pm

Thanks Kevin I’m watching you’re YouTube video now.

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Re: Epson SC-P900 colors inaccurate

Reply #7 on: January 12, 2024 at 4:53 pm

I tried the whole profiling process again and got the exact same awful results. Profiler is going back and I will pay for profiles to be done in the future.

Thank you so much for your help through this nightmare!

 

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Re: Epson SC-P900 colors inaccurate

Reply #8 on: January 11, 2024 at 2:11 pm

Good news! I got my new P900 installed the EMY files and printed with the original RR profile. My results were good. Im interested in trying to create a profile with the Calibrite one more time. Question Mark- I know not to use color management when printing my targets, but should I set the profile on the printer to the RR EMY file when printing the target vs setting it to the Epson profile?

 

 

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Re: Epson SC-P900 colors inaccurate

Reply #9 on: January 10, 2024 at 5:16 pm

Thanks Mark I will definitely use it from here forward after my new printer arrives. We will figure this out!

 

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Re: Epson SC-P900 colors inaccurate

Reply #10 on: January 10, 2024 at 4:49 pm

Thanks for the response, this was actually my first Epson. Ive tried 3 different Macs with 3 different operating systems and had the same issue with every one.

I have not tried using the Epson media installer yet as Ive been swamped with work, and working with Drew from Red River about their profile. He is doing a test of one of my problem images on their p900. He did not think the media installer would have any effect on the issue. Im also going to return the printer just in case as my warranty expires next week. Will keep you updated! My new printer should be here by the end of the week.

 

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Re: Epson SC-P900 colors inaccurate

Reply #11 on: January 7, 2024 at 12:19 am

Also I just downloaded your review and will check it out tomorrow. Thanks!

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