Epson Print Layout & non-Epson paper

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  • Fred Carter
    Fred Carter
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    on: February 14, 2022 at 8:17 pm

    No offense to Dano, but I tend not to use Epson paper.  Sometimes Canson-Infinity, usually HahneMühle.  This is generally for printing in an Epson P800.

    Most of these papers, as most of you may know, have an ICC profile available from the manufacturer (or you can make your own), but there’s the print driver setting for what paper type to use.  The Epson driver doesn’t have settings for HahneMühle paper — you use (for matte papers), Velvet & set the profile.  So the printer gets paper characteristics from the paper setting, but Lightroom (in my case) get the color management things from the ICC profile (at a high level).

    In your video for the Mac, all the papers were Epson.  Does EPL scan the usual locations for other profiles & have them as options?  Presumably Auto selection of profiles doesn’t work.

    For the iPad version of things, is it possible to reasonably print on non-Epson papers? Is there a place to add profiles that EPL will look?

     

    Thanks much/fred

    Kevin Raber
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    Re: Epson Print Layout & non-Epson paper
    Reply #1 on: February 15, 2022 at 4:58 pm

    Hi Fred,

    I use other paper other than the profiles with EPL. To do this you install profiles using Epson Media Installer.  We will do a video on it since it can be tricky, but once you get it it is easy.

    There are videos on YouTube explaining it.  With this installed, I can use Ilford paper, Canson and Hahnemuhle.

    Usually, if I am doing serious printing on those papers I use Imageprint.  B

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    Andrew Rodney
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    Re: Epson Print Layout & non-Epson paper
    Reply #2 on: February 15, 2022 at 5:06 pm

    EPL and Lightroom Classic and all others get the media settings from the print driver which should be ideal (and match) how any 3rd party profile is made from those media settings. If you get the profiles from the paper manufacturers, they should, they must recommend a media setting to use with that profile; it is how it was created.

    You don’t have to, nor want to use Auto for such profiles, you’ll select them manually. And the corresponding media setting.

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    Fred Carter
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    Re: Epson Print Layout & non-Epson paper
    Reply #3 on: February 15, 2022 at 5:46 pm

    Thanks @Kevin & Andrew ( @digitaldog ).  That’s what I assumed, but thought I’d check.  I generally print from Lr & I’m quite familiar with the gyrations there. I have printer presets, etc., for the various paper types (HahnaMuhle matte vs glossy, etc.) — that makes it easier not to screw up! The key to printing is consistency!

    But it’s always useful to understand the new tools & tricks.

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    Andrew Rodney
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    Reply #4 on: February 15, 2022 at 6:32 pm

    Fred. I generally print from LR’s Print Module too, it alone is worth the price of admission. Short of soft proofing Advanced B&W settings, there isn’t anything I find unique or more useful in EPL and LR’s module has output sharpening based on the capture sharpening, and of course, you’re working directly from the raw if that is the source. No need to render out anything, just do all the work directly in LR. The Print Templates mean you can select one or more images, then click one button if you wish; done. If your user setup Templates are created correctly, nothing to screw up.

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