Macbook Pro M3 and Spectraview II

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  • Hugh Sakols
    Hugh Sakols
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    on: May 18, 2024 at 1:06 pm

    After upgrading to a Macbook Pro M3, I can no longer use Spectraview II to calibrate my NEC Multisync PA 272w.  When I open Spectraview II (the latest version), it says No Supported Display.  I have used a Display Port to Thunderbolt cable with and without a USB adaptor. I also used my old Display Port cable to Mini Display Port via a Firewire dock.  I’m not sure how to proceed other than change to Calibrite or just not calibrate my monitor.

    Andrew Rodney
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    Re: Macbook Pro M3 and Spectraview II
    Reply #1 on: May 18, 2024 at 2:58 pm

    It works fine on my M1, but see the release notes that speak of using another USB cable running from display to Mac to support communications. IOW, under the M-series, you now need a second USB cable.

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    Andrew Rodney
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    Re: Macbook Pro M3 and Spectraview II
    Reply #2 on: May 18, 2024 at 3:01 pm

    https://update.sharpnecdisplays.us/spectraview/nec_spectraview_readme_macos_v1_1_44_en.html

    Found it:

    Release Notes

    Mac M1 and M2 support information

    Due to the design of the M1 and M2 Macs, direct control and communications with a display over HDMI, DVI, and DisplayPort are not possible as with previous generations of Macs. M1/M2 Macs do not support controlling displays without a USB connection.

    Therefore:

    Display models that do not have USB connections, such as the MultiSync LCD80 and LCD90 series and P212 models, are not supported and cannot be hardware calibrated on an M1/M2 Mac.

    For display models such as the MultiSync PA311D, in most cases, no additional connections to the display are necessary when the Mac is connected directly via Thunderbolt/USB-C.

    For displays connected to the Mac using the HDMI, DVI, or DisplayPort input on the display, a USB-A to USB-B cable must also be connected between the Mac and the USB input on the display in addition to the video cable connection.

    For display models that support multiple USB upstream connections, be sure to select the correct USB input on the display’s OSD setting.

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    Hugh Sakols
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    Re: Macbook Pro M3 and Spectraview II
    Reply #3 on: May 18, 2024 at 3:48 pm

    Thanks Andrew. I got it. I connected a second USB Type B to the monitor, and now Spectraview II detects it.

    Oliver Ritter-Wolff
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    Re: Macbook Pro M3 and Spectraview II
    Reply #4 on: September 6, 2024 at 5:33 am

    I recently experienced how important cabling is when I updated from a Mac Mini M1 to a Mac Studio M2. I also took the opportunity to update the software from BenQ Palette Master Element (PME) to Palette Master Ultimate (PMU). I connected BenQ SW-270C and SW-240 monitors, the latter of which was already connected to the Mac Mini M1 via HDMI/HDMI cable. In this constellation, calibration and profiling with PME were always inconspicuous. On the Mac Studio with PMU, there was a max delta of 4.x and the note to perform the calibration/profiling again, but this did not bring any improvement even with other parameters. I contacted BenQ support and was advised to use a DP/USB-C cable instead of the HDMI/HDMI cable, as the data transfer should be better here. And indeed, this measure reduced the max delta to 1.x in the green range.

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    Andrew Rodney
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    Re: Macbook Pro M3 and Spectraview II
    Reply #5 on: September 6, 2024 at 1:52 pm

    4X vs. 1X simply due to the cable? If the measurements/reports were correct, that doesn’t bode well for this product.

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    Oliver Ritter-Wolff
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    Re: Macbook Pro M3 and Spectraview II
    Reply #6 on: September 6, 2024 at 2:10 pm

    I doubt that it was the cable itself, but as BenQ says, HDMI to HDMI cables generally have a lower bandwidth than Display Port to USB-C cables and this can lead to the problem. In the end it was the same. I would not have expected this. Ultimately, I’m happy that the calibration/profiling is now running smoothly again.

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