Jim Newberry

Jim Newberry

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    P800 UPPPG color shift issue
    on: May 7, 2021 at 7:43 pm

    Jim, unless you specifically went to the Epson site and downloaded individual ICC paper profiles, those you have were installed with your Print driver.

    PGPP isn’t an i1P profile. If you’re on a Mac, you can open in the ColorSync Utility and see the tag indicating this was built by Seiko Japan. Again, I think this was covered in my video.

    I did watch the video (http://digitaldog.net/files/Not_All_Profiles_are_created_equally.mp4 this one, right)–I didn’t see V2, etc. mentioned, maybe I missed it? I’m considering buying a print calibrator, but at this point not sure I want to spend the money, considering other than this issue things are working great with my printer, and I don’t use the paper in question often.

    I thought maybe since I have a bunch of V2 profiles there might be one available for UPPG, but I guess not.

    Jim Newberry
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    Re: P800 UPPPG color shift issue
    Reply #1 on: May 7, 2021 at 7:29 pm

    Right; the V2 profiles are really good. Built with i1Profiler in USA. The other’s are not and as you may see in my video, have issues handling out of gamut blue mapping for one. That *may* be one issue….

    I do have a bunch of V2 profiles, but not for PGPP. I can’t remember where I got the V2 profiles I have, does Epson sometimes include those, or are they from a third party?

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    Re: P800 UPPPG color shift issue
    Reply #2 on: May 7, 2021 at 6:38 pm

    You likely need a custom profile…I don’t know of any known issue with this paper and any Epson professional printer. It really sounds like a profiling problem from your description of context.

    Thanks  Mark; I’m definitely going to look into making a custom profile.

    What is the exact name of the profile from Epson you’re using.

    I too have a P800 but I’m not seeing any of Epson’s installed under Big Sur; I may have just deleted them all since I only use custom profiles.

    Any chance there’s a “V2” in the name?

    I do  have some V2 profiles, but not for PPPG; is V2 preferred, or did you think that might be causing the issue?

    Exact profile name I’m using: SC-P800 Series Premium Photo Paper Glossy. There is a (2)–not V2–at the end of the name, it looks like I have duplicate profiles, I’ll try deleting one. But neither has “V2.”

     

     

     

     

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    Re: P800 UPPPG color shift issue
    Reply #3 on: May 7, 2021 at 3:25 pm

    Thanks for the reply Andrew; I’ll watch that video and download that file.

    Next, I’m not sure what you mean by ‘accurate’ color.

    I don’t mean scientifically accurate, I mean reasonably similar (for my use) to what I see on my calibrated monitor. I’ve been using Epson printers for many years, and can almost always get prints that look quite similar to the way they do on my monitor. And like I said, I’m able to get good (to me) color with same image on two other papers.

    I’m not looking for perfection here, but wondered if there was a known issue with UPPPG paper, especially with P 800.

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    Re: Epson Printers
    Reply #4 on: May 7, 2021 at 3:10 pm

    I have an Epson P800 printer along with decent calibrated monitor (and I’m very experienced with inkjet printing). I’m having trouble getting accurate color using Epson Ultra Premium Photo Paper Glossy. I have a lot of that paper at the moment, so would like to figure this out.

    I’m getting pale/pink fleshtones with UPPPG paper. Printing same image on Epson Hot Press Bright, or Red River Ultra Pro Gloss, color looks great.

    Anyone else have this problem?

    I’m using Epson’s P800 profile, Premium Photo Paper Glossy, which is what they recommend (I checked with support, there’s no Ultra PPG profile.)