Moving on from Olympus to… (Leica?)

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  • Simon Revill
    Simon Revill
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    Moving on from Olympus to… (Leica?)
    on: April 27, 2021 at 12:20 pm

    I too have sold off all my SLR equipment and decided on the Q2 as I wanted the larger sensor but in a small package and didn’t fancy the Sony offering ….. so far I’m not missing the bigger kit and am adjusting shooting with the fixed lens. The files produced really are very nice and I’ve used many other brands over the years 🙂

    Enjoy !!

    This was one I recently took and liked

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    Peter Gallagher
    Peter Gallagher
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    Re: Moving on from Olympus to… (Leica?)
    Reply #1 on: May 4, 2021 at 6:19 am

    Greetings,

    Well, about a year later, how did that go?

    Mixed, as you might expect. The short answer is that the idea of imposing on myself the ‘constraint’ of a single fixed-focal-length lens sort of worked. I loved the simplicity — the liberation! — of one-camera-one-lens. I adapted my approach to making images (especially landscape) and I think I benefited from the discipline (‘foot zoom’, looking for suitable frames, thinking more carefully about my subject before I shoot). I had to be more inventive. Also, the fast, sharp lens + large sensor of the Leica Q2 proved to be as good a combination as advertised.

    But I don’t love the Q2 (I hope we can still be friends).

    In my view it is not a great camera (I can’t say that in a Leica forum without the cultists reflecting on my character). It looks good and strictly follows the Leica’s ‘aesthetic’. Also, it’s nice to own a camera that isn’t anchored to Japanese designs from the 1980 like almost (bless Sigma!) every other little-black-box on the planet!

    But the Q2 is an inflexible instrument; for the sake of those design “values”. It sorely misses some ordinary but valuable facilities like a tilting (or even moving) view-screen or a port for a control cable. It has one teeny-tiny button that can be programmed for back-button focus or AEL that is near impossible to find with my thumb. And it’s difficult to mount the camera on a tripod without obstructing either or both of the battery and SD-card ports.

    The design is so severe that, in fact, the camera is hard to hold unless you purchase a dongle (probably from Leica) like a right-hand finger grip that attaches via a bottom plate (not tripod-ready), or a $200+ back thumb-grip that occupies the hot-shoe.  I was so worried about dropping the thing that I purchased a Leica wrist strap just-in-case!

    Happily, the ‘software’ design of the Q2 is ‘friendlier’. I found the Leica menu system rather straightforward and even ‘flat’ compared to the obscure depths of some contemporary brands. The ‘quick’ menu that can be reached by one back-button and manipulated on the touch-screen is more useful than most of the hardware controls.

    Cradle Mountain,Dove Lake, Tasmania

    COVID restrictions meant I haven’t used the Q2 as much as I expected when I purchased it almost a year ago. Still, I recently took a trip around some well-known landscape sites in Tasmania (images in some PDF books on https://images.petergllagher.net.au) where I used the camera a lot. I shot from a ‘table-top’ tripod most of the time for the sake of portability, stability and a great perspective for a wide-angle lens. That worked well.

    But, since the back screen is stuck to the camera body and I could not get my eye down to the EVF for most shots (water, mud, bushes, or no room) and there is no cable-remote for the Q2 I had to use the remote  controls of the Leica Photos iPhone app to frame the composition, set the shot parameters and make the exposures.  The app was OK when I managed to get the connection working (a bit more than half the time). The Q2 itself worked reliably in freezing and wet conditions.

    Then, the Q2 does not do several things that other contemporary cameras do. For example, there’s no built-in focus bracketing and the longest exposure you can get even on ‘bulb’ is 30 sec. It has a (low) ISO setting of 50, so 3-5 sec. exposures for e.g. streams and waterfalls are not a problem with or even without an ND filter (at say, f.13). But it’s not designed for astro-photography. Nor are there any ‘live view’ image composites such as Olympus offers. It offers reasonably flexible exposure bracketing and will shoot up to about 7 frames in rapid succession when creating HDR images (but then the buffer is full). I was annoyed that you cannot choose to by-pass a noise-reduction delay when shooting 1”+ shots. An 8 sec. exposure (say) is followed by an 8 sec. noise-reduction blackout whether the conditions need it or not.

    The Q2 lens is stabilized, but the shake-correction is not remarkable. I found little benefit from it below about 1/30”. It seems to be hardly any use when shooting macros hand-held, as the Summilux lens allows. I had a success rate of about 1 in 10 shots when making close-ups of the colorful lichens & fungi that are everywhere in the temperate rain-forests of Tasmania.

    Here, however, I must admit that I was too conservative with my ISO settings. Inspection of the images I took in a lot of low-light settings on my trip shows me that the Q2 sensor is not especially prone to ugly luminance noise. I could certainly have allowed the ISO to creep above 6400 without uglifying my raw files. So it is probably my fault that I did not take better macro shots.

    I don’t shoot video so I can’t comment on the camera’s capabilities. But I’d be surprised to find they were any more refined/extensive than the stills options.

    I’m probably going to keep the Q2. It has several virtues even if it is, at best, a specialised tool. But it would take more talent — and probably more years — than I can claim to learn to rely on it fully.

    Heiko Hamann
    Heiko Hamann
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    Re: Moving on from Olympus to… (Leica?)
    Reply #2 on: May 8, 2021 at 4:02 am

    Hi Simon, have fun and success with your Q2! Nice photo – I hope we see more of those!

    Heiko Hamann
    Heiko Hamann
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    Re: Moving on from Olympus to… (Leica?)
    Reply #3 on: May 8, 2021 at 4:06 am

    Peter, thank you for sharing your experience with us! Yes, besides the special quality, the design and the Leica philosophy are also special. And it is very interesting to read how this affects the practice and the individual way of working.

    Kevin Raber
    Kevin Raber
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    Re: Moving on from Olympus to… (Leica?)
    Reply #4 on: May 9, 2021 at 3:32 pm

    Thanks, Peter for the detailed post.  I was brought up on Leica and loved the older cameras.  I even did the big Leica video for that other website.  It was great to see the dedication everyone at Leica has for their cameras and design.  Leica has never been the camera for the masses.  It knows its niche market and that for them is what counts.  The *2 is a nice camera but you did well pointing out the things missing and frustrations of working with it.  These days I am using the Fuji X100v and love it.  It has a tilting screen and a new very sharp and excellent lens.  Plus a lot of other features.

    The megapixels beat the Fuji for sure.  I also loved the Sony RX 1and it served me well on many occasions where I just wanted to have a camera that was convenient and it has some great features.

    You would think though that Leica could do a tilt screen and hybrid viewfinder like Fuji for the price.  The lack of ports and other things makes me scratch my head.  The images though are really nice.  I did a comparison of 11×17 images from the Fuji x100, sony Rx1, and Q2 and it was hard to see any noticeable difference at that size.  IMO that is where it matters.

    The bottom line: the cameras mentioned are all good and if they work for you then that is what counts.

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